Penny Wong, the Australian Labour Government's Minister for the Environment and Water, faces off UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, at the Bali Climate Change Conference. Note Ban is carrying a ceremonial baseball bat.
There’s an old book called ‘The World of Suzie Wong’ that was made into a film in 1961, starring William Holden as an improbable artist and the delicious Nancy Kwan as a prostitute called well, Suzie Wong. I liked both the book and the film, being both a Bill Holden, Nancy Kwan fan and a nostalgic cheese aficionado. Suzie is the classic Asian doll, reluctant mattress athlete with a corny heart a' gold and big dreams, plus a secret baby looked after by her Amah.
"You're pregnant! Amah!"
Suzie lived in an unstable and exploitive environment filled with threats and swirling demons both real and imagined. In short, she lived in a snake pit and believed in a lot of superstitious drivel, bein’ Chinese an’ all. I wonder how the bilge of Feng Shui works with the direction of sexual positions?
“No! Head must face wash basin or very bad luck for Auntie’s psoriasis!”
Now there’s a funny contradiction for believers in superstitions, magic, fate, general dark past voodoo, the New Age Return of the Son of the Middle Ages piffle, and other howl at the moon contortionism. The practitioners simultaneously believe that there are malevolent and imaginary forces at work beyond their understanding, while oddly believing they can also assuage or control these booger beings by repetitive, convoluted and pointless behaviour.
I’d never call Penny Wong a simple minded tart. Suzie Wong was highly pragmatic and pretty smart in her own way. While Suzie probably did swallow the glow from warm balls, she was not stupid and would never have swallowed completely the populist and total junk of Global Warming. Leave that to 17 year old WTO arsonist/vandals and dull, mediocre and modishly Left politicians.
By her own choice, Wong has put herself in the powerful position of a major government Minister. And she’s 100% into the swingin', money churnin' bogus Climate Change scene in Bali this week. She’s entirely responsible for this portfolio but sadly, the main topic under intense focus is, er, rubbish.
It’s an ironic thing that the current environment is about the environment, but not the actual one as it is, but an imaginary and entirely predictive one, filled with twisting malevolent monsters of the elements, all just around the corner they say. And any weather extremis, which is a wholly natural part of the world’s weather system, is now seen with wide eyes, as some kind of wild portent. Bollocks.
Global Warming causes both floods and droughts in Oz, apparently. Nothing can now happen without being blamed on GW or GB. George Bush, with an IQ of 125 is apparently unintelligent, yet he can control the weather! The Right manipulates the world again! Er, no.
What is merely an oppressive and orthodoxy driven movement, has evolved almost entirely due to the momentum given it by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of Soviet Communism. It’s grown due to the vampiric desire of Left and Radical ideology fanatics to find legitimacy via this relatively new and profoundly phony environmental angle. It fits perfectly any activists bloated self righteousness. And it’s about the money and status available to those who jump on the latest and maybe greatest, in a long line of gravy trains.
Ah, weather and climate experts…the same people who can’t always get tomorrows weather right, can now apparently predict not just next weeks conditions, but what the weather will be like in 10, 20 or even a 100 years time. Sure they can. Plus folks, they can even control it! Er, riiight. The plans of mice and weathermen.
So if GW is already a happenin’, what should the temperature be right now? Hotter or cooler, and by how many degrees? Nobody knows because there is exactly zero reliable measurement in any of it.
Every few weeks there's another dire warning in the news, until one reads the source of the latest brass sounds of doom, and it’s nearly always the same few sources. The IPCC or similiar group, or a regularly sighted professional celebrity environmentalist and er, maybe another Al Gore brainwave or something else stupid via his vast and unquestioning fan club.
The IPCC is a highly political body of 2,000 scientists out of the millions worldwide. There are more than a few who have asked for their names to be removed from said body due to its bending of science to politics.
Hey, with the Sun due to expand into a vast fiery ball that will vaporise earth, and we may only have a 3 to 6 billion year window, I’d like to know what the government is doing about it.
The GW mass hypnosis is like astrology. You just gotta believe man, and it’s in the newspapers everyday! And they don’t really mention that astrology is unfounded gibberish. It’s presented the same as GW is; we all assume and agree that hey, it’s all true. No money back guarantees with either of these bunko artist scams though, eh? GW will slowly fade over the years as nothing happens and the money eventually dries up.
Paul Erlich never did do a follow up to his fraudulent fortune telling book of 1968, “The Population Bomb”. So, it’s like a scene from Soylent Green at your apartment block, huh? Guess not. No follow up to the discredited ‘Silent Spring’ book of 1961 either. Its incompetence meant the banning of DDT, the resulting return of malaria and the deaths of perhaps 60 million people. No apology, retraction and no change of policy.
This year a Ugandan Government Minister pleaded with the world to lift the ban on DDT to save his people. Good luck mate, with the Western Bastards of Unrepentent Moral Vanity and their massive free floating ego's.
No, just more of the same with ‘The Return of The Son of Green Eco Death Imperialism’ courtesy of the same old Left with new Climate Change clothes, this time using full tilt nutso Nazi style earth worship. Many activists are very eager to cull the human population literally, and have produced several hideous best sellers on how the earth would be better off without any people on it, and how to do it. The following is from Mark Steyn:
"Oxford University Press has published a book by Professor David Benatar of the University of Cape Town called Better Never To Have Been: The Harm Of Coming Into Existence. The author "argues for the 'anti-natal' view — that it is always wrong to have children…
Anti-natalism also implies that it would be better if humanity became extinct." As does Alan Weisman's The World Without Us — which Publishers Weekly hails as "an enthralling tour of the world… anticipating, often poetically, what a planet without us would be like." It's a good thing it "anticipates" it poetically, because, once it happens, there will be no more poetry.
Lest you think the above are "extremists," consider how deeply invested the "mainstream" is in a total fiction. At the recent climate jamboree in Bali, the Reverend Al Gore told the assembled faithful: "My own country the United States is principally responsible for obstructing progress here." Really? The American Thinker's website ran the numbers. In the seven years between the signing of Kyoto in 1997 and 2004, here's what happened:
• Emissions worldwide increased 18.0%.
• Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1%.
• Emissions from non-signers increased 10.0%.
• Emissions from the U.S. increased 6.6%.
It's hard not to conclude a form of mental illness has gripped the world's elites. If you're one of that dwindling band of westerners who'll be celebrating the birth of a child, "homeless" or otherwise, next week, make the most of it. A year or two on, and the eco-professors will propose banning nativity scenes because they set a bad example".
Also see Andrew Bolt in 'The Herald Sun' for Wednesday 19 December, with his excellent collection of even more local Aussie Enviro Nihilist Loons.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22945744-5000117,00.html
P.J.O'Rourke said that the drivel of the standard phrase, "There are too many people!" basically boils down to, "Too many of you, just enough of me!"
These Enviro Freaks are mad and anti human earth worshippers, that are speeding towards their idiot 'Super Dream' of a nihilist paradise, sans any actual nihilists. They're beyond Fascism really, and into a Greens kind of Uber Year Zero. They hate people for the simple reason that real people spoil an eco-activists sense of purity in ideology.
They can’t see the world for the trees.
These are our leaders who gather with the Zero Quality Control Freak Circus of the UN. The UN, will fine us millions if we overstep our carbon emissions apparently. No fines for the endless crimes of much of the disgusting dysfunctional Narco-gangster states, Islamist sand dunes, Totalitarian criminal implosions, terrorist exporting piles, child molesting Diplomat suppliers and Jew hating sewers that make up a large proportion of the UN.
Yep, UNdemocratic, UNintelligent, UNrepresentative, UNimportant, UNtrustworthy, UNproductive, UNrealistic, UNcaring, UNaccountable, UNqualified and UNbearable. I’ve always felt that there is a first and last letter missing. What about Corrupt Useless Nasty Trash?
How do you improve the UN? Cut off the top ten floors.
But then, it makes no sense, because the female reproductive Wurlitzer makes perfect, productive and natural sense, and it's self supported. And Suzie Wong had one. In the end she was a good person with actual religious beliefs who cared about a real and empirical future. She married William Holden, giving her baby a Father and left the badlands of Hong Kong’s Wan Chai district. Good old Suzie.
Sports, with the mainstreaming of enviro-extremism, the badlands have come to us, disguised as a return to the Garden of Eden, but without God so it seems. Now why would that be?
Cut and paste these old relevent posts of mine and a great one from Brookes News on how economics and population actually work together. I like Brookes News more and more and of course, the rest of the Mark Steyn piece.
http://brookesnews.com/071712greens.html
http://www.nysun.com/article/68186
The following is a great little PDF by Aussie Professor Evans, on how the IPCC is an incompetent fraud and why Gore is a bunko artist.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Evans-CO2DoesNotCauseGW.pdf
http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2007/07/global-warming-is-much-worse-on-sun.html
http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2007/08/climate-does-change-thats-why-they-call.html
http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2007/10/whats-left-of-mind.html
http://colonelrobertneville.blogspot.com/2007/09/manhattan-under-15-metres-of-seawater.html
2 comments:
Sports, some nice unedited comments from Hotair dot com.
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/13/video-teacher-teacher-ill-raise-my-hand-to-global-warming/
Global warming is a guise for a socialist agenda.
Global Warming = Global Socialism.
“Global Warming” is not an observed phenomenon. That the weather is changing (some places getting warmer, some getting colder) is not in doubt… it happens all the time.
There is no science in Global Warming that proves it’s caused by Humans. That is an opinion and not fact.
We have not and cannot control our environment from a global perspective
How long till one of the candidates propose a tax on exhaling.
The reason why the Republican base is so convinced GW is a hoax is because the facts are so contrary to the claims of the swindlers constantly pushing it down our throats.
I’ve said it before, but… I used to work in a building with 20 used car salesmen. And from experience, I can tell you that if Al Gore used the same techniques to sell you a used car that he uses to sell global warming, you’d run away screaming with both hands on your checkbook:
No, the whole point is that the debate is supposedly over. None of us neanderthals has a problem with discussing the evidence, but when it is reduced to raising your hand, then that’s where we get off.
Big S, I’m the evil GW denier. Remember? I don’t have to provide the evidence. All I need to do is challenge the groupthink with questions. I noticed you didn’t attempt to address any of the questions I asked specifically and how they are sort of problematic to the man made GW theory.
It totally kills me that people buy into this, thinking that they are looking at the “big picture”. Hate to tell you, Sparky. But climate cycling for a hundred / two hundred years on this planet is NOT the big picture.
Try taking a mere quarter of a second of your life, and predicting your whole life’s outcome based on the changes in that quarter second…and that is even more data that you brain-drains are using to predict the demise of a planet that will be around for LONG after we’re extinct.
This is just a ploy for insignificant, unhappy morons to feel NEEDED in the global picture.
Check in now…we are NOTHING to this planet.
Let’s clear that whole Global Warming = Socialism thing up for you guys…
A GLOBAL crisis is the perfect vehicle to centralize power to “fix” the problem that doesn’t exist (climate is cyclical and does not rely on action by man), so that people in that centralized power can attain and keep said power, while taking from everyone else
Tell me, Big S, how did we Earthlings prevent the New Ice Age that was supposed to be just around the corner in the seventies?
Ok. Come on now. I’m going to get this out of you. If upward warming trends on the temp vs time line graph PREdate upward warming trends of greenhouse gas emmissions how is it possible that greenhouse gas emmissions have anything to do with the increase of temps?
Every single GW activist I’ve ever heard has always made reference to the corrilation between Co2 and temp. That is the crux of the man made GW theory. But its crap. You don’t have to have a doctorate in order to figure this one out.
When I was in high school I remember conducting an experiment. We had a plastic coke bottle, a balloon, water and a bunson burner. We filled the plastic bottle with a few cups of water. Attached the balloon to the top of the bottle. Heated the bottom of the bottle with the bunson burner. What happened? The balloon blew up. With what? Co2.
What does this teach us. It teaches us that temp increases CAUSE rising Co2 levels. Hence, the undeniable corrilation we are all supposed to bow down to. The same forces are at work on earth.
I’m not going to buy into, or endorse any action that involves the thinning of my wallet for something that is so remarkably counter to basic logic and reason. Anybody who does is a fool.
Now, weaning ourselves off foreign oil is a completely different issue. I’m for that. I’m for introduction of alternative energy sources that allow us to do that. But, only so long as Al Gore stays out of my f’ing bank account.
To the degree that some warming is caused by human activity I think is minor, if any at all. My short but sweet comment was, in my mind, to the point. But a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I believe the climate is changing, has changed and will always change. Irregardless of what humans contribute. The knee jerk reaction has been to blame human activity to which I ask for proof.
The one fact that isn’t debatable is GW is being used as a scare tactic to push forth a socialist agenda.
blah blah, The Laureate… blah blah blah, The Laureate. Al Gore is an enemy of the USA.
Just to put another nail, reason, poopoo, in my Global Warming = Global Socialism comment which I think was a brilliant statement.
President Clinton and others cite a letter signed by 2600 scientists that global warming will have catastrophic effects on humanity. Thanks to Citizens for a Sound Economy, we know now that fewer than 10% of these “scientists” know anything about climate. Among the signers: a plastic surgeon, two landscape architects, a hotel administrator, a gynecologist, seven sociologists, a linguist, and a practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine.
With Clinton in the White House, you can expect more experts like these to run the country and economy right into the ground.
And note the Chinese connection.
Sorry to get all scientific on you, but you asked for it… Your little experiment with the bottle proves nothing but the dependence of carbonate acid dissociation constants and solubility of gas in liquid on temperature (feel free to look up those terms if you haven’t heard them before). Yes, the same kind of thing can happen with the dissolved carbonate and CO2 in the ocean, as the ocean warms. However, the timescales of the various processes involved in the establishment of equilibrium are probably what’s responsible for the lag in CO2 behind temperature in the ice core data (assuming that the data’s accurate). Think about it this way: the atmosphere warms and cools much faster than the ocean, and a warming of the atmosphere by some other process (sun output, volcanic activity, differences in cloud formation, etc.) warm the oceans slowly, over the course of about 1000-2000 years (a decent estimate of the circulation time of the deep ocean water), and CO2 is released into the atmosphere. That CO2 can amplify the warming effect by re-absorption of blackbody radiation from the Earth’s surface, in what we normally call the “greenhouse effect.” Like I said, none of this is simple, and there are numerous competing effects and feedback mechanisms that contribute to temperature control. The worry is that we’re producing enough greenhouse gas to force these equilibria to new positions, and we don’t really know how the climate is going to respond.
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on December 13, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Like I said, I’m willing to wait for better data and simulations before we do anything drastic. However, the physical mechanisms for global warming on account of increased greenhouse gas concentrations are very plausible. So yes, I’m comfortable saying that some, but not all, of the warming we’ve seen is due to the burning of fossil fuels.
I’m fairly certain that solar activity correlates much more strongly with average temperature fluctuations in the past 100 years than do such fluctuations with co2 emissions. That is one of the reasons why some scientists hypothesize that increased co2 emissions (the vast majority of which come not from human activity) are an effect of global warming rather than a cause. When I consider the effects of global warming and increased co2 levels on plant growth, I can’t help but think that we might actually win the decades long fight against global hunger
We don’t know what’s going on, but we are in the middle of an increase in greenhouse gases, as well as overall warming of the Earth’s surface temperature. The physical reasons for believing that they may be linked are well established…Big S on December 13, 2007 at 4:53 PM
I’m not ready to pay more taxes to deal with a well established maybe.
and we are definitely contributing something to the greenhouse effect. The whole point is that we don’t know by how much, and there is an ongoing debate. Big S on December 13, 2007 at 4:53 PM
And yet the world’s socialists want immediate and drastic action. Hmm. And I don’t know where these debates are you speak of. I see any person that questions man’s influence on climate change being labeled as a monkey for big oil, and I see the Goracle and other Chicken Littles avoiding serious debate as though it were VD.
This period of Global warming has been going on for at least 10,000 years. What is a hoax about that. To think we are the cause is beyond stupid. It shows a complete lack of education of geologic histoy and geologic time as well as a complete lack of fossil record, of evolution record, of extinct species, or natural process, and finally a complete and utter lack of the basics of climatoloy. Look at the Deserts of our present world they were not always deserts, the oceans were not always oceans and the mountians use to be seas. The earth changes at a constant rate. To think we have anything to do with that change is egotistical at the least. to think we can stop that change that has been occurring for the last 4 billion years and will continue to change for the next 4 billion years is nothing short of mental illness. It is not a hoax. It is the elites using the avg individuals lack of education to steal power for their own purposes. If Al gore believed what he believed he would be doing webcasts from his cave not flying around the world in a jet.
Well said! They will not produce the exact methodology for determining that infamous ‘hockey stick’ that seems to be the main ‘fact’ upon which this hoax is built. And the goracle will not debate. Only orate.
Elitist intimidation at its slimiest
Yeah tell that to Mars and the rest of the solar system because they are heating up too. But the global warmers claim Mars warming is due to the “wind” while ours is due to man
Yes, I agree the global warming phenomenon on Mars is a serious problem. What shall we do? Who shall I give money to?
It is an attempt to push Socialist Ideology through the guise of Global Warming by the Democrats and Leftist
Also don’t forget that urban environments reflect more heat that rural environments. Since most of the present day Temp readings are taken in or close to cities and those in the 1930’s were taken mostly in rural environments the temp readings of present day are off several degress due to this effect. Also the present day network of temp readings is 100 times more advance and cover more collection points so an 100% correletion in temps form the two different time periods is not possible. the earth could have been much warmer in 1930 than in present day or it could have been colder. the point is we do not know. What we do know is that there use to be 1-2mile high glaciers in NYC. They aren’t there anymore. Thus the earth has been warming for thousands of years well before the industrial revolution. So the idea that man in the last 100 years caused the earth to suddenly get warmer is laughable.
A dissenting group of distinguished scientists from the International Climate Science Coalition,
representing Africa, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, will be
available for advice and counsel in Bali, but they expect to be ignored at the conference as European
liberal politicians monopolize the agenda and allow for no dissent.
Dissent will not be tolerated. The debate is over.
“Nobody is interested in solutions if they don’t think there’s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are…”
- former Vice President Al Gore
(now, chairman and co-founder of Generation Investment Management– a London-based business that sells carbon credits)
So stretching the truth to make a profit is the real motivation.
Now we have the EU using a Liberal Democrat tactic to black mail the US.
As U.N. talks entered their final hours, European nations on Thursday threatened to boycott a U.S.-led climate meeting next month unless Washington agrees to a deal mentioning numerical targets for deep reductions in global warming gases.
Nothing to talk about unless you comply with our demands.
Stop thinking in logical fallacies.
DaveS on December 13, 2007 at 10:05 PM
The solar sytem for all intent is a closed system with the planets and the sun. Logic says that if a the same change is detected on all bodies within the system than a there is a universal source that is causing the observed effect not 9 seperate but equal events. Therefore logic dictates that since warming is occurring on all of the planets there must be a single source causing that warming. Since Man is not on all planets logic rules out man as the cause. The only thing that acts on all planets and impacts all planets that we know of is the Sun. Therefore logic says the Sun is most likely responsible for the warming. That is logic and that is science. Your logic says 2+2=5 and THAT is a logical fallacy brought on my egotistical, nihilisitc thinking.
unseen on December 13, 2007 at 11:21 PM
unseen on December 13, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Your logic is impeccable. The main cause of Global Warming is orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the Sun’s output.
Besides Astronomical Causes, there are also Atmospheric and Tectonic causes. Circulatory patterns of ocean currents. Heat retention, Solar reflectivity and Sunspot activity are not taken into account. Nope, we are the sinners, the polluters, the evil humans destroying the earth.
But when a volcano farts, just hold your nose and ignore it.
Kini on December 13, 2007 at 11:37 PM
Ok here are two stories about the same effect. The melting of Greenland ice sheets.
One blames man:
There was more bad climate news from the High Arctic on Wednesday as scientists reported fresh evidence that the ice all across the oceans surrounding the North Pole and the vast Greenland ice sheet is melting faster than ever.
Year after year in recent decades, the impact of global warming on Arctic regions has been growing more severe, but this year the situation appears worse as the ice is melting at a record pace, according to researchers who monitor climate change in the far north.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/13/MNC9TT0TQ.DTL
While one blames nature:
Magma May Be Melting Greenland Ice
But clues to a new natural contribution to the melt arose when scientists discovered a thin spot in the Earth’s crust under the northeast corner of the Greenland Ice Sheet where heat from Earth’s insides could seep through, scientists will report here this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20071213/sc_livescience/magmamaybemeltinggreenlandice
Which one will the media choose to play up and which one will the media bury?
unseen on December 13, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Kini on December 13, 2007 at 11:37 PM
Your right but you need to seperate that into three parts.
This is global warming/global cooling:
The main cause of Global Warming is orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the Sun’s output.
While this is climate:
Atmospheric Circulatory patterns of ocean currents. Heat retention, Solar reflectivity
While this is geologic:
Tectonic, volcanoes, sedimentary events
Climate changes occurs freqently over short geologic time periods while global warming and cooling events occur less frequently over longer geologic time periods and tectonic forces occur over long and short geologic time periods and can impact both climate and global warming/cooling for short to long periods of geologic time frames. Example big volcano eruption will cool the planet for maybe months or a couple of years. The rise of a major mountain range like the Rockies or the Alps can change the climte of the entire world for millions of years. In the same vain the formation of the Alantic ocean over the last 180 million years has had major climatic consequences but did not impact the warming or cooling of the earth.
When viewed form this angle the thought that man can change the entire world climate when the formation of an entire ocean did not warm or cool the earth one bit is laughable.
I blame the global warming movement on a total lack of education in our schools. They do not teach science any longer, do not give prespective and do not allow investigation and balance.
the fact is that Global Warming is not a huge problem nor does it require immediate/drastic action. It may be a reality but so what? Are we really so foolish as to think that we can alter the earth’s climate/temp with our own behavior?
If the temperature of the planet has been changing in epic cycles for over 4 billion years, how exactly do we know that the current temperature is the, erm, right temperature and that we as humans should be responsible for maintaining the planet at that temperature?
Because our activity over a couple hundred years has “allegedly” influenced it? What about all those dinosaur farts over 150 million years? What about sunspots? Volcanoes? Do we need to compensate for those somehow?
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