Wednesday, 16 July 2008
The trouble with Hurry Up Harry.
At Harry's place, things can seem kind of almost ok for while. That's until there's a sharp Left turn and the crazy pills kick in. Oh, and they will. They will...
"What a dump!". Bette Davis. Beyond the Forest .
“Your manuscript is both good and original, but the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good”. Samuel Johnson. [Attributed.]
“Half of what I say is meaningless,
But I say it just to reach you, Julia”. Julia. The Beatles.
Now here’s the thing. There is a blog, Hurry Up Harry, that is less than half good, less than half funny and less than half decent. It’s a [less than] half a blog! It’s a Left blog, baby. It’s almost, almost neat and then it’s as if someone has cut out whole paragraphs, then inserted classic endless Logical Fallacy of the moral equivalence, absurd and contradictory Koskid boob kind. No, really.
"Is this love baby, or confusion?" Love or Confusion. Jimi Hendrix.
Harry seems to be doing some good work, and then invariably blows it. And Harry is damn popular. Hey, obviously a lack of Quality Control is a great selling point in today’s neo-teen market! Credit to Harry for unmoderated comments. A very rare thing on Left sites.
“A one... two-- A one... two... three... four...
Half a bee, philosophically,
Must, ipso facto, half not be.
But half the bee has got to be,
Vis a vis, its entity. D'you see?
But can a bee be said to be,
Or not to be an entire bee,
When half the bee is not a bee,
Due to some ancient injury?” Eric the half a bee. Monty Python.
Now Harry is in Britain, and is being sued, as one often is today, by a classic Islamist loon and creep. Now mostly, the conservative parts of the Net have quickly supported Harry. No surprise at all for the aware.
Harry: “...when I say I’m grateful for the most of the support we’ve received from the blogosphere after we reported the threatened lawsuit against us by Mohammed Sawalha, the Hamas supporter who is president of the British Muslim Initiative”.
Thanks for er, most of the support?
Er, riiight Harry, oh glaringly uncool and ungracious twerp. Why the er, “most” caveat, Harry? [See the comment/letter I left at Harry's joint further down.] Well, as is the standard form today, most support for free speech and in this case, Harry’s, has as stated previously, come overwhelmingly from the conservative blogosphere. Harry is rather prone to wrong definition, and absurd attribution. And yet, he still deserves our support including mine regards his right to free speech. Go figure true conservatives. We do mean the freedom thing, even for you.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. The Friends of Voltaire, 1906. Attributed to Voltaire.
Here's a good piece of work by Harry, on the background of the laughable charges made against his site, by the Islamist Hamas scumbag Mohammad Sawalha, President of the British Muslim Initiative. Whatever. I think Mohammad also makes the sandwiches during beheading video nights.
Harry: “Much of the backing comes as a result of an item posted by Glenn Reynolds at the very popular right-of-center blog Instapundit, who linked to a “Support Harry’s Place Blogburst” set up by the conservative blog NeoConstant. Although I haven’t done a thorough review of all the blogs that have signed up, at a glance they appear to be overwhelmingly on the political right”.
Actually Harry, Instapundit is not right of centre, and we are not so much of the mythical right per se, as mostly conservatives, libertarian, contrarian, iconoclastic, mature, secular or often Christian etc, and hip humorous empiricists like me. No, really.
“I’m more of a Heinleinian libertarian...” The great Glenn Reynolds.
Nick from South Africa on Harry: “Reynolds is a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, with libertarian leanings. I think describing his blog as ‘right-of-centre’ is a little clumsy and rather old fashioned”.
Harry: “In most cases, I have no problem with this...”
I bet ya do, mate.
Harry: “...for the most part I welcome the support of anyone who opposes the BMI’s dishonest efforts to suggest that we deliberately misconstrued the meaning of what Al-Jazeera originally reported Sawalha as saying about the Jews in London celebrating Israel’s 60th anniversary. (I hope they would all be equally supportive if, for some reason, we were being unfairly sued by Mark Steyn or Rush Limbaugh, but I live in the real world.)”
What real world is that? The Rings of Venus? Tragic innit? Harry just slings out super hyperbole and self-parody via an impossible hypothetical attribution. Mark Steyn would sue anyone? Bullshit , mate. How, why and bloody when? Evidence? Zero. Intellectual rigour? Ditto?
Harry: “...However there appear to be some anti-Muslim hate sites on this list– this one, for example...”
Er, it’s NOT a hate site. Oh that’s right. Defamation of Islam is newspeak for blasphemy. Sheesh. What crap.
Harry: “...whose support we can easily manage without. In fact I would be quite pleased if those blogs would remove themselves from our list of supporters. We have no more use for their support than we would for support from racist or anti-semitic sites”.
Then I guess that rules out a shit load of Left sites as the Left are almost invariably anti-Israel and anti-Semitic then? They are after all, the new bedfellows of Islamists everywhere.
Harry: “...Although the support from leftwing blogs has been a good deal less intense, I welcome it too...”
Yeah, less intense. Bugger all and late compared to the conservative sites, though, eh?
Harry: “...especially from our comrades at Shiraz Socialist who, despite their frequent disagreements with us, responded by telling the BMI to “Sue us too, you anti-Semitic scum!”
A boy named Sue?
Harry: "What’s interesting, however, is (aside from the usual nonsense by Seumas Milne) the absence of support on the web for the BMI’s position– at least as far as I’ve seen. Part of the reason for this, I suppose, is that the BMI hasn’t even mentioned it on their own website, which still prominently promotes last month’s demonstration against George Bush’s London visit..."
Hey, big effing surprise. Islamist freaks hate George Bush just like the Left? Who woulda thought it?
Harry: “...Another reason, perhaps, is that even the most dogged HP bashers are clear-eyed enough to see this threatened lawsuit for what it is, even if they’ll never admit it”.
Harry, conservatives always have, and do see this for what it is now. It's an attack on the individual and free expression by a totalitarian ideology called Islam. This is why they are supporting a Leftard like you. This is something the Left virtually never does. Narrow paradigms and rigid conformity to a total wooden package, is how Leftards celebrate diversity!
Harry: “Update: In the course of offering Harry’s Place his unwanted and unneeded support, Robert at Dhimmi Watch calls us “clueless dhimmis.” Is that a bad thing?”
Now here's a kicker. Insulting the great and empirically impeccable Robert Spencer, THE worlds foremost expert and specialist on Islam and associated ills. What is Harry’s beef exactly, beyond jealousy and Bob’s crushing superiority to anything Harry could ever muster?
Robert Spencer: “Over at Harry's Place, however, they still think that "jihad is what you make of it," as if words have no meaning and Islamic theology has no content, as if you could easily read The Brothers Karamazov as a cookbook or Mein Kampf as an adventure novel, or of course the Qur'an and Sunnah and rulings of all the madhahib as not counseling warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers...
...With customary graciousness, Harry's Place says our support is "unwanted and unneeded", without, of course, specifying anything we say or have ever said about Islamic jihad as inaccurate, and tarring us with the familiar "Islamophobia" brush that jihad propagandists and their witless dupes (like Harry) wield against anyone who speaks accurately about the elements of Islam that jihadists use to incite violence. Harry asks if being a clueless dhimmi is a "bad thing."
Yes, Harry, it is, and the fact that you don't know why is only the beginning of your troubles". Bob Spencer.
La dee dee, one two three,
Eric the half a bee.
A B C D E F G,
Eric the half a bee.
Is this wretched demi-bee,
Half-asleep upon my knee,
Some freak from a menagerie?
No! It's Eric the half a bee!
Fiddle de dum, Fiddle de dee,
Eric the half a bee.
Ho ho ho, tee hee hee,
Eric the half a bee". Eric the half a bee. Monty Python.
Anyway, the great Phyllis Chessler has a link, and the very good Neoconstant felt it startlingly neccessary to apologise to Harry. Neoconstant is perhaps in error regards empirical equivalence and comparison. Sorry, mate, but you're maybe trying to be too er, reasonable...It's a conservative thing! In fact, because Neoconstant is such a very worthy site, these points have kept me awake all night in contemplation.
There is no proportional reality of Global Islam and the 57 various states of Hell that they inhabit with their official policy of Jew hatred, and a virtually impossible to calculate percentage wise, of local extremists such as abortion clinic bombers, who are dealt with through criminal law etc.
Ironically, it was Leftard radicals in the 1970's, who were reponsible for an unbelievable 20,000 or more violent domestic attacks on US soil, including armed robbery, arson, extortion, bombing and murder. And many have never been prosecuted, also boast about it, as per usual teach at Universities and clearly associate with Democrats. Then there's Europe.
"Paging the Baader Meinhoff and Red Brigades to reception. A call from the New York Times".
To naively believe or hope that Islam has somehow "drifted toward extremism" is simply mistaken. Extremism is not an anomally in Islam any more than murder, conformity and lies are an anomally of Communism and Nazism.
A doctrine founded by a mass murdering rapist and paedophile is by default, extreme. A doctrine that has at its core the eradication of all things un-Islamic is er, extremist. They haven't drifted. It's merely a case of now having the resources and opportunity, via oil money, technology, travel, PC Leftard multicultism and immigration.
[Note: I originally accused the pretty cool Neoconstant of er, "grovelling". Yes, rather boorish, rude and overdone of me, and I wish I hadn't.
Though what gets to me, is how many conservatives are just too damn thoughtful and agreeable, sometimes with people and views that we should simply NEVER agree with or accomodate to, or appear to. We are not always so combative really, and it can show with our lack of presence on the web and the media in general, the louder and fun examples withstanding. The sites removed that I've seen so far, are not worthy of the criticism aimed at them at all. And naff touchiness about often mild terms sans context, well...
In Australia, we often call each other bastards as a term of endearment. No, really. Sure, show me the rotten context and evil intent of a spooky site, and I'll be hip to the creepy of it all. Sorry folks, but I just don't dig the idea of trusting Harry's rather dodgy ideas of who and what is a worthy blog.]
Harry deserves support of course, but should be mature enough to handle a few blogs he doesn't approve of. Islam is bogus and requires no apologies. Here is my feeble comment at Harry’s sometimes not too sharp site.
"Dear sport, er, Harry, I support your right to free speech. No, really.
Even though mate, your site is sometimes rather sodden with Logical Fallacy, cant, canard and hyperbole. Steyn etc, would sue you? Riiight, sure he would! Give me a break. When, how, why? Nice dumb straw man and irrelevant subject change, kid. Stretching your Left cred in case an excellent comrade is looking at your current support?
"What, me pals with the Bush/Hitler people? No, way, man!" Ironic and laughable. Your nose is out of joint, eh?
As if...balls, mate. And er, there's no mirror image of the 52 Islamic states that oppress and murder gays, women and children etc, and support worldwide terror etc, in the Jewish or Christian world anywhere...Give me a damn example consummate to Iran, Syria, the UAE etc. Junk mate. The Jews and Christians the same as the people who have carried out over 11,000 major reported terror attacks since 9/11? AND 9/11? Ah, the logic…maybe the Jews did it with Bush/Hitler?! Pass me a “Truther’ vomit bucket.
Hey, as long as one says Koskid absurdities about Christians and Jews though, one can never be a bigot, eh?
It's no coincidence that Left sites are not supporting you as the Conservative blogs are. They never really do. And you know why. Are you saying this has not occurred to you? The Left talk freedom and diversity, but it's a fraud of every opinion as long as it's theirs. True conservatives at core believe in the individual first and limited government interference, especially foreign.
And the site you mentioned in the current Orwellian way as a "hate site" is no such thing. Islamists and PC Left Liberals now call any criticism of Islam defamation, because they cannot say blasphemy. It's a crock and you know it. Regards an authentic er, hate site, try evidence, via actual statements.
Harry, you’re getting more support than you may deserve personally, beyond your right to speak freely of course. Yep, I support your freedom of speech and mine, to slice and dice your mediocrity and lack of quality control, but Harry, you're often full of bog standard crap. Try humour, self reflection and honest maturity, kid.
However, I found many of the comments fascinating such as these and many more:
Samuel Stott comments at Harry: “It really is time to get over the 18th century idea that all political positions can be assigned a place on a metaphorical left-right spectrum. Some people and political organizations and nations consistently support liberal-democratic rights of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and association, freedom of religion, and freedom of the press. Most don’t.
That’s it and that’s all there is. You are either on the side of all of the above freedoms and the people and organizations and nations that honor them or you aren’t.
John P. on Harry: “On the question of anti-Muslim racism. Probably 50% of HP commenters are blatanty and overtly racist to Muslims.
Ah shut the fuck up! Would it interest you to know that the *sacred* texts used by for ALL muslims call for the death of gays. Just sayin’ as a gay man.
And quite performing your mortal preening on my back you disgusting, blinkered jackass before I boot you fuck off of it.
Everytime you buff-up your sick moral credentials, you righteous prig, you put the lives of ALL gays at a slightly higher risk.
Attacks on gays by Muslims are becomming an epidemic, you fucking retard. Quit facilitating those attacks!
Trundlemaster on Harry: “TJ said:”The Trots have been pretty quiet, haven’t they”
I’ve just popped over and looked at another left bulletin board called Urban75 which has quite a few SWP supporters on it and done a quick search to see if the publicity over the IslamExpo has caused any kerfuffle there and there is not word said. Nothing prior to 2006. There are posters on that site like other similar sites where Trots congregate like flies on rotten corpses and any challenge to the idea that extremist Islamism is not a threat to democracy is greeted by a chorus of ‘racist’, ‘Islamaphobe’ or ‘Tory’.
I might for the first time in years purchase a copy of Socialist Worker to see how deeply the Swaps are in denial about the Jihadist background to the organisers of IslamExpo.
There is a need for a national Islamic lifestyle exhibition but it should be pluralist not just a vehicle for extremists”.
Luke: “TT on Harry: “WHere are the great Leftists publicatsions - the Indi, Guardian etc.
Where is the great Leftist broadcasters, the BBC on this. Where are all the Leftist Human Rights people, like Liberty. I haven’t heard a peep from them.
Could it be that Human Rights was just a scam, used by the Left to gain power, money and influence where they have no right to be. Mmmmm”.
Like on Harry: "urban75 is full of wealthy middle class graphic designers and media types. They are living out a fantasy of being tough, radical. working class activists because they are enthralled to the Anti-capitalist movement and they have mortgages on Edwardian terraces in Brixton.
Proper radical man!!!!!!
They are middle class liberal tosers at their worst.
I went on the urban 75 forum to talk about why we as Leftists condemn right wing Christianity but give right wing Islamists a free pass.
Did an impassioned debate ensue? Did they listen to what I had to say and have an adult conversation? No they did not.
I was denounced as a racist by everyone who had a keyboard in front of them. It was like they didn’t even care what I had to say, I was a racist neocon because I dared to question a political/religious movement of an ethnic minority. I wasn’t supportive of the brown skinned anti imperialists of the third world. I wasn’t on the side of the good guys.
Which of course makes me a George Bush loving BNP supporter. I said time and time again that I didn’t support the war in Iraq but because I criticised Islam I was a neocon racist by default.
They are slaves to the dogmas of the Left. Urban75? Pathetic.
Jakester on Harry: “You folks can spin all sorts of stuff about who is more in favor of free speech(right/left) or are we being racist if we say or believe this or that or the Church did all these naughty things centuries ago so how can we rail against such things when committed by...
That is all bs. Look at the world, most of the wars these days involve Muslims attacking some other group (Philippines, Nigeria, Israel, Afghanistan, Kashmir, the Sudan) Some of the most oppressive, sexist and religiously bigoted regimes are Muslim, like the King of them all, Saudi Arabia.
This kind of pseudo intellectual argument is so redolent of the same intellectual vegetables who used to say that Communism isn’t bad, its the anti-Communists who are bad and causing these people to behave this way, or that country doesn’t have real Communism or it’s only a bad apple like Joe, Mao, Pol, Fidel giving this great way of life a bad name, or they have to seal their countries off so the counter revolutionaries won’t enter/escape and spread counter-revolution.
I judge Islam by the countries it creates and on that count, they are doing pretty poorly. Just compare India with Pakistan and Bengla Desh, cut from the same cloth in 1948. Which country has greater freedom and prosperity? Yes, I know the Hindu caste system is oppressive too. But at least modern Indians are moving away from that. Saudi Arabia won’t let Jews into their country".
John P. on Harry: "You can relable shit as sugar, but it won’t make it sweet. And you can buff and polish the Koran as much as you like, sweetie, but it still remains a turd. Now, off you go to feed the turks!"
Girl on the right on Harry: “I’m afraid you have our support whether you like us or not, Harry. Our wacky kind defend the freedoms of EVERYONE - not just people who agree with us. Try it sometime! RG”.
Afghan Whig on Harry: "The reason your website is getting sued is because your lawmakers subscribe to an irresponsibly broad definition of “anti-Muslim hate,” just as you do. By carelessly characterizing websites which are critical of Islam’s terrorist fringe as racist, you have helped create and sustain the atmosphere needed to legitimize the ridiculous lawsuit you’re contending with.
So on one hand I truly hope you win this case; Europe has been bullied by religious extremists for far too long. On the other hand, if you lose, you kind of did it to yourself. Cheers!"
“I love this hive, employee-ee,
One summer afternoon by me,
I love him carnally.
He loves him carnally,
Oh. Cyril Connelly”. Eric the half a bee. Monty Python.
"Harry? Is that you?" The Geisha Boy. Jerry Lewis.